>> that we should have used the medicare model. it works, it's proven to be affective and people believe in it, including republicans. >> the final question? medterm elections? it looked like -- how is this going to affect them and do you honestly think the democrats are going to be out there defending this program or are they going to cut and hundred run? >> i think any democrat who sees this program as a liability has already run. >> the whole thing has been ugly when you combine the technical calglitches to allegations of problems. it turns out to be not the case. >> and that is going to be interesting. it affects a number of people and not a scandal. >> right. it's a heavy thing. people don't want to you mess around with that. >> we'll continue to watch it as it hopefully gets better and we were talking about the website back online. >>> and meanwhile, as we move o it's holiday season. we have a costume controversy, how a mom is defending her son, believe it or not, kkk outfit. >> we'll be right back. ,,,,,, [uncle]this is hops